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If you're thinking about the counteroffer only after you've made the offer, you've already lost.
In this episode of Notable Perspectives, Jen Holmstrom and Christina Pasanen sit down with Matt Jahansouz, Chief People Officer of Quince. Quince has crossed $1 billion in revenue and a $10.1 billion valuation by rethinking the end-to-end consumer and e-commerce model — selling $50 cashmere sweaters and premium bedding by cutting out middlemen entirely. Matt brings the people leadership playbook behind that growth: how to close elite talent in a bidding war, why workforce planning past 90 days is largely wasted time, and what it actually means to build a team for an AI-driven world.
Join us as we explore:
Chapters
00:00 — AI as the New Standard: Why Resistance Is a Hiring Red Flag
00:38 — Building Quince: Reinventing Luxury Retail in the AI Era
01:06 — The First Critical Hire: Why Founders Need Senior People Leaders Earlier
03:08 — Workforce Planning in Hypergrowth: Prioritization Over Prediction
05:21 — The 90-Day Shift: Building Teams for the Company You’re Becoming
06:44 — Founder Leverage: Stop Solving 2X Problems and Start Solving 10X
08:22 — Lean Teams, Big Impact: Why Top Talent Thrives in Smaller Organizations
09:00 — Winning the Talent War: How to Recruit and Close Elite Candidates
11:39 — Counteroffers and Closing Strategy: The Details That Decide Top Hires
13:28 — AI Inside the Organization: Embedding Adoption Into Company Culture
15:48 — Global Hiring in the AI Era: Why Local Context Still Matters
17:22 — Rapid Fire: Hiring Mistakes, HR Processes, and the Future of Teams
19:01 — Why People Are Joining Quince: Building a Once-in-a-Generation Company